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Archive-name: www/stylesheetsnewsgroup-faq
Posting-Frequency: twice a week (mondays and thursdays)
Last-modified: March 10, 2001
Version: 1.95
Maintainer: Jan Roland Eriksson
URL: /faq/ciwas-mFAQ.html

comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets FAQ v1.95

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  1. What is <comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets> ?
  2. What kinds of posts are acceptable in this news group ?
  3. What kinds of posts may be acceptable in this news group ?
  4. What kinds of posts are not acceptable in this news group ?
  5. Where are the technical resources for this news group ?
  6. How do I get best possible answers to my questions ?
  7. How do I enable style sheet handling in my browser ?
    1. Microsoft IE
    2. Netscape
    3. Opera
  8. How do I create my own default style sheet ?
  9. Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ ?

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Q: What is < comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets >

A: This is an unmoderated news group which passed its vote for creation by 166:19 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 20 Mar 1997.

The charter of this news group, as culled from the vote result announcement, states the following:

This unmoderated news group is intended for the discussion of Web style sheets. Style sheets can make an author's life much easier. With style sheets, one only needs to specify presentational preferences once, and the style can be applied to an entire site. Not only that, but style sheets also reduce download time when one file contains all the style information.
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Q: What kinds of posts are acceptable in this news group ?

A: Topics for this news group include:

03:===== Q & A =====

Q: What kinds of posts may be acceptable in this news group ?

A: Articles on related subjects (e.g. HTML mark-up, Scripting languages, etc) that may be required for discussion of a specific CSS problem.

On general terms:

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Q: What kinds of posts are not acceptable in this news group ?

A: Some examples of inappropriate posts include:

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Q: Where are the technical resources for this news group ?

A: Available info on the subject of Cascading Style Sheets is too extensive to be written in a posted document like this. It is suggested that you research your technical questions on the use of CSS in one of the following places on the World Wide Web.

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Q: How do I get best possible answers to my questions ?

A: In the list of resources (Q&A #5 above) you can find a number of URL's pointing to "syntax validators" for both HTML and CSS. These on-line resources can be among your best friends when you are having problems with your web page designs.

Regular posters in "ciwas" like to validate their css snippets, and/or external CSS files along with their HTML, before posting a question to the NG.

If you still have problems, after having followed advice given by the validators, chances are that you having an encounter with a browser bug and/or a bad CSS implementation in a particular browser. Regulars in ciwas know about most of them and will be able to help you find a suitable "work around" for your problem.

The final advice now is for you to provide a URL to an example page that includes your problem.

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Q: How do I enable style sheet handling in my browser ?

A: The following guidelines may be used to enable style sheet handling in some popular browsers. (note: information valid for release versions of browsers only)

a) Microsoft Internet Explorer

v3.0x, on Windows platforms

At the menu selection "View -> Options…", activate selection "Advanced" and checkmark the box labeled "Use Style Sheets".

It is possible to add a user stylesheet to the MS IE3.0x family of browsers. Be warned though that this involves editing the Windows95/NT registry, and anyone not comfortable with the use of Windows Regedit, should perhaps stay out of this.

Information on proper procedure can be found here…
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/topics/stylefaq.htm#fourteen

A warning from the author of this FAQ: Please note that the support for CSS in MSIE3.0x can at best be described as "rudimentary". Do expect problems in rendering of documents that are guided by style sheets, while style sheet handling is enabled in this browser.

(the style sheet for the Web document containing this FAQ, has not been "optimized" for use with MSIE3.0x in style sheet enabled mode)

v4.0x, on Windows platforms

At the menu selection "View -> Internet Options…" in the "Preferences" dialog, select the "General" tab (if it isn't already selected). Activate the "Accessibility" button and make sure that the first three boxes (labelled "Ignore color on Web pages", "Ignore font style on Web pages" and "Ignore font sizes on Web pages") are all UNchecked.

Additionally, if you want to see backgrounds printed out, go back to the main Internet Options dialog, select the "Advanced" tab, and scroll down in the list until you see the option "Print background colors and images". Make sure it's checked.

MSIE4.0x also has provisions to let the user specify a local stylesheet, to be used to set a base rendering preference for all viewed pages.

To set your own user stylesheet, follow the directions above to get into the "Accessibility" dialog. Once there, check the "Format documents using my style sheet" then use the "Browse…" button to select your style sheet.

v5.0, on Windows platforms

At the menu selection "Tools -> Internet Options…" select the "General" tab (if it isn't already selected). Activate the "Accessibility" button and make sure that the first three boxes (labelled "Ignore colors specified on Web pages", "Ignore font styles specified on Web pages" and "Ignore font sizes specified on Web pages") are all UNchecked.

v4.0x, on Macintosh

Please find the menu selection "Edit -> Preferences…" and activate the section "Web Content" (under "Web Browser"). Checkmark the options "Show Style Sheets", "Allow page to specify colors" and "Allow page to specify fonts".

(info on how to set a user stylesheet not know at the moment)

v4.5, on Macintosh

Use the same procedure as for the v4.0x browser.

the v4.0x and v5.0 browsers in general

Please note that Microsoft IE v4.0x and v5.0, on all of its platforms, is very "liberal" on what CSS it accepts. They most always tries to do "something" with any bogus code that is thrown at it, leading authors to believe that their CSS code is Ok and that they have found bugs in other browsers when they in reality do behave according to specs, and the error is really to be found in the authors own CSS code.

b) Netscape Navigator/Communicator

v4.0x and v4.5x, on Windows platforms

These browsers needs to have both style sheet and JavaScript handling enabled in order to start interpreting external style sheets.

Please find the menu selection "Edit -> Preferences…", activate selection "Advanced" and checkmark the boxes labeled "Enable JavaScript" and "Enable style sheets".

(info on how to set a user stylesheet not know at the moment)

v4.0x and v4.5x, on Macintosh

Use the same procedure as for the Windows platform.

(info on how to set a user stylesheet not know at the moment)

v4.0x and v4.5x, on Unix platforms

Use the same procedure as for the Windows platform.

(info on how to set a user stylesheet not know at the moment)

v4.0x and v4.5x browsers in general

Please note that the support for CSS in Netscape N/C v4.0x, and v4.5x on all of its platforms, is far from being up to specifications. Do expect problems in rendering of documents that are guided by style sheets, while style sheet handling is enabled in this browser.

c) Opera v3.5x and v3.6x, on Windows platforms

Opera comes with stylesheet handling enabled by default. Rendering of documents with or without CSS support is easliy toggled ON/OFF by means of the "Toggle Document Settings" button that is just to the left of the document address field in each open document window.

It's my experience that even better CSS rendering results can be had in Opera if one takes some time to do a careful configuration of all possible font selections available in the menu selection "Preferences -> Document Appearance" most especially the "Generic" fonts should be set to personal preference.

All details on how to set a user stylesheet is also available in the "Document Appearance" dialog and its context sensitive help.

Opera's support for CSS1 comes close to being correct to specs. It still has a few minor "quirks" but over and all for not overly complex stylesheets it will render CSS documents in a way that it can be used as a personal "reference" browser for CSS1.

Support for CSS2 is close to non existant.

08:===== Q & A =====

Q: How do I create my own default style sheet ?

A: If you want to specify a default stylesheet, here's how:
First, write a default style sheet using your favorite text editor, and save it to your hard drive as something like "default.css".

If you are using MSIE 4.0x then follow the directions above to get into the "Accessibility" dialog. Once there, check the "Format documents using my style sheet" and then use the "Browse…" button to select your style sheet.

If you are using MSIE 3.0x for Windows95/NT then follow the directions above on how to edit your registry to set the path name of your stylesheet.

That should be all you need!

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Q: Where can I find the latest version of this FAQ ?

A: This FAQ was last updated 2001/03/10 copyright 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001
-- Jan Roland Eriksson

Permission to freely reproduce this document electronically is given as long as the document remains uncut and unedited.

This FAQ is posted periodically to the NG every monday and thursday and I'll endeavor to use the same subject line at all times so that those of you who have seen it can kill-file the subject.

FAQ version number in subject line will be changed whenever the document has been revised. You should be able to use that fact when setting your kill filter to make sure that you have the latest version available at all times.

This meta-FAQ is also available in HTML on the World Wide Web;
at… /faq/ciwas-mFAQ.html

…and as a text document;
at… /faq/ciwas-mFAQ.txt

…with the revision history of this meta-FAQ;
at… /faq/ciwas-mFAQ-rev.html

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